Facelift headlamps into prefacelift - Main Beam indicator

Started by paulsutton, April 5, 2012, 15:43

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paulsutton

April 5, 2012, 15:43 Last Edit: April 5, 2012, 18:05 by paulsutton
...as I have these but they aren't yet fitted am i correct in saying that when fitted to a prefacelift the main beam on dash light doesn't work?..and is this an MOT fail?

..i read a post the other day that suggested this is now an MOT failure??..not sure if thats correct or not?!

..has anyone managed to fit these and have them working 100% on a prefacelift...as if there are problems with Main Beam Dash..i may well go for a set of new prefacelift.

Cheers
Paul
pre-facelift silver | recon engine   | SP12 wheels   |  hard top OFF | custom hard top cover | air con | pre-cat free  | che header  | facelift new red cloth seats/doorcards  | Toyota heated seat kit  | TTE twin  | TTE style bar  | rear facelift inserts  | facelift rear lights  | rear spats  | facelift front bumper | roadster luggage | toyota ducktail spoiler | facelift side vents |
Other cars - Suzuki GV1600 softtop with removable hardtops | Nissan 2.2 tdi X-trail

uktotty

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April 5, 2012, 15:57 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
If you install them correctly, everything will work in exactly the same way as it does on the facelift model

nathanMR2

#2
April 5, 2012, 16:42 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Are you sure Russ as im sure that everyone who's followed your wiring diagram has had exactly that issue?
MR2 Roadster TTE Turbo - now sold and 2less but forever an enthusiast

Anonymous

#3
April 5, 2012, 17:09 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
as of current the little person of a blue main beam light still does not come on. in both cases mine and russ's (unless russ's has changed since his how to) have produce the blue light. i am still working on sorting this issue out however time is very limited for me at current

paulsutton

#4
April 5, 2012, 17:23 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Quote from: "nathanMR2"Are you sure Russ as I'm sure that everyone who's followed your wiring diagram has had exactly that issue?

...its what i thought to be honest as I've read a lot of posts concerning wiring diagrams etc and this issue seems to be unsolved at mo..as far as I know anyway!

...if anyone knows any different please could they shed some light on this...  s:D :D s:D  ...sorry!!!

Cheers
Paul
pre-facelift silver | recon engine   | SP12 wheels   |  hard top OFF | custom hard top cover | air con | pre-cat free  | che header  | facelift new red cloth seats/doorcards  | Toyota heated seat kit  | TTE twin  | TTE style bar  | rear facelift inserts  | facelift rear lights  | rear spats  | facelift front bumper | roadster luggage | toyota ducktail spoiler | facelift side vents |
Other cars - Suzuki GV1600 softtop with removable hardtops | Nissan 2.2 tdi X-trail

Anonymous

#5
April 5, 2012, 17:28 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Quote from: "paulsutton"
Quote from: "nathanMR2"Are you sure Russ as I'm sure that everyone who's followed your wiring diagram has had exactly that issue?

...its what i thought to be honest as I've read a lot of posts concerning wiring diagrams etc and this issue seems to be unsolved at mo..as far as I know anyway!

...if anyone knows any different please could they shed some light on this...  s:D :D s:D  ...sorry!!!

Cheers
Paul

as im on holiday next week ill see if i can have another crack at the light and make it work like it should or ill just rewire it as it only need a live.

paulsutton

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April 5, 2012, 17:37 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Quote from: "rbuckingham"
Quote from: "paulsutton"
Quote from: "nathanMR2"Are you sure Russ as I'm sure that everyone who's followed your wiring diagram has had exactly that issue?

...its what i thought to be honest as I've read a lot of posts concerning wiring diagrams etc and this issue seems to be unsolved at mo..as far as I know anyway!

...if anyone knows any different please could they shed some light on this...  s:D :D s:D  ...sorry!!!

Cheers
Paul

as I'm on holiday next week ill see if i can have another crack at the light and make it work like it should or ill just rewire it as it only need a live.


...sounds good!

Could you let me know what the outcome is?

Thanks
Paul
pre-facelift silver | recon engine   | SP12 wheels   |  hard top OFF | custom hard top cover | air con | pre-cat free  | che header  | facelift new red cloth seats/doorcards  | Toyota heated seat kit  | TTE twin  | TTE style bar  | rear facelift inserts  | facelift rear lights  | rear spats  | facelift front bumper | roadster luggage | toyota ducktail spoiler | facelift side vents |
Other cars - Suzuki GV1600 softtop with removable hardtops | Nissan 2.2 tdi X-trail

uktotty

#7
April 5, 2012, 18:01 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Apologies!
I read main beam on and not main beam indicator on.
No mine is still having that issue

paulsutton

#8
April 5, 2012, 18:03 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Quote from: "uktotty"Apologies!
I read main beam on and not main beam indicator on.
No mine is still having that issue


...sorry my fault! should have put correct title on post!    s:oops: :oops: s:oops:
pre-facelift silver | recon engine   | SP12 wheels   |  hard top OFF | custom hard top cover | air con | pre-cat free  | che header  | facelift new red cloth seats/doorcards  | Toyota heated seat kit  | TTE twin  | TTE style bar  | rear facelift inserts  | facelift rear lights  | rear spats  | facelift front bumper | roadster luggage | toyota ducktail spoiler | facelift side vents |
Other cars - Suzuki GV1600 softtop with removable hardtops | Nissan 2.2 tdi X-trail

nathanMR2

#9
April 5, 2012, 18:04 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Do you think it would be still MOT friendly to have a blue led bulb to come on somewhere on the dash?
MR2 Roadster TTE Turbo - now sold and 2less but forever an enthusiast

Anonymous

#10
April 5, 2012, 18:44 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Quote from: "nathanMR2"Do you think it would be still MOT friendly to have a blue led bulb to come on somewhere on the dash?

if you go down that route you might as well use the actual bulb and just change its live wire mate.

paulsutton

#11
April 18, 2012, 09:31 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Quote from: "rbuckingham"
Quote from: "paulsutton"
Quote from: "nathanMR2"Are you sure Russ as I'm sure that everyone who's followed your wiring diagram has had exactly that issue?

...its what i thought to be honest as I've read a lot of posts concerning wiring diagrams etc and this issue seems to be unsolved at mo..as far as I know anyway!

...if anyone knows any different please could they shed some light on this...  s:D :D s:D  ...sorry!!!

Cheers
Paul

as I'm on holiday next week ill see if i can have another crack at the light and make it work like it should or ill just rewire it as it only need a live.

...did you manage to look into this after? ...i'm still pondering whether to sell my facelift headlights and buy a new set of prefacelifts instead!
pre-facelift silver | recon engine   | SP12 wheels   |  hard top OFF | custom hard top cover | air con | pre-cat free  | che header  | facelift new red cloth seats/doorcards  | Toyota heated seat kit  | TTE twin  | TTE style bar  | rear facelift inserts  | facelift rear lights  | rear spats  | facelift front bumper | roadster luggage | toyota ducktail spoiler | facelift side vents |
Other cars - Suzuki GV1600 softtop with removable hardtops | Nissan 2.2 tdi X-trail

Anonymous

#12
April 18, 2012, 10:26 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
i have looked more into it and the light is controlled by the clocks from what i can see at the moment. so im afraid no blue light at current.

paulsutton

#13
April 18, 2012, 14:06 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Quote from: "rbuckingham"i have looked more into it and the light is controlled by the clocks from what i can see at the moment. so I'm afraid no blue light at current.

..ok no probs
pre-facelift silver | recon engine   | SP12 wheels   |  hard top OFF | custom hard top cover | air con | pre-cat free  | che header  | facelift new red cloth seats/doorcards  | Toyota heated seat kit  | TTE twin  | TTE style bar  | rear facelift inserts  | facelift rear lights  | rear spats  | facelift front bumper | roadster luggage | toyota ducktail spoiler | facelift side vents |
Other cars - Suzuki GV1600 softtop with removable hardtops | Nissan 2.2 tdi X-trail

loadswine

#14
April 18, 2012, 14:43 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
I don't know if this is of use, but when I had my digital dash installed on my V6 ( which was a facelift) I seem to recall that one side of the warning light was live and it was the earth side that was switched for the main beam warning light. May be of no help at all, but thought I'd mention it.
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Anonymous

#15
April 18, 2012, 17:12 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Thank you nige. Both sides are negative without full beam but then one side becomes positive when full beam is on. Be good to see a facelift clocks circuit board to see what the difference is

AmeR

#16
June 17, 2012, 18:32 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Dragging up this thread to duplicate this info from another thread on it, as my blue beam works but here is why:

Ok, normal operation of the FL headlights is that the dipped stays on when you pop the main on and the blue dash light comes on.
I swapped 2 pins on mine and now the blue light works but the dipped goes off when the main is on. It's bright enough do hasn't bothered me.

I do however intend to figure this out using this info and existing knowledge on here, but as I say I've not been fussed up until now.

nathanMR2

#17
June 19, 2012, 08:27 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Do you remember which 2 pins you swapped over Paul?

Is anyone aware if just having the full beam on, without the main beam will still cause an issue MOT time?
MR2 Roadster TTE Turbo - now sold and 2less but forever an enthusiast

AmeR

#18
June 19, 2012, 08:39 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
I've passed an MOT with it no issues and the main beam seems to be plenty bright enough - even better than the prefacelift. Hence it has never bothered me.
I can't recall exactly which 2 unfortunately but when I get my car back and the front end off, I'll take some pictures to upload here too.

nathanMR2

#19
June 19, 2012, 08:53 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Good man  s:) :) s:)   s:bowdown: :bowdown: s:bowdown:
MR2 Roadster TTE Turbo - now sold and 2less but forever an enthusiast

knockhillracer

#20
November 18, 2012, 00:47 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Just wired up face lift headlights and got it correct 1st attempt! However my mr2 is SORN'd so no immediate need to sort out MOT yet however Russ's diagram has brought up the blue dash light issue like many others... Was there any further news on the 2 pins that were swapped over. If so, some pics would be great to see!?!
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Anonymous

#21
November 18, 2012, 09:05 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
I did have an idea on it but never tried it.
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