More on Tyres.....

Anonymous · July 14, 2004, 15:22

Anyone tried or about to try these? They LOOK great, but I guess they are going to be expensive and probably not that practical fro the road........

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Anonymous · July 14, 2004, 15:31

It's hard enough keeping the car on the road when it's wet with decent tyres, let alone ones like these! s:)

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Anonymous · July 14, 2004, 16:23

Yeah, I know, but imagine what they would be like in the dry!!!!! s:shock: :shock: s:shock: s8)

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Don't think I will be getting them, I was just curious..........

juansolo · July 14, 2004, 17:39

They look a bit like Yoko A032R/A048R. Not something I'd put on a Mr2 lightly. Hard ride and wet weather snappiness (way more than you think) wouldn't be pleasant. Also if they are in the same grip level league, expect your wheel bearings and suspension to take a pounding and make sure that the oil system can handle the dramatically increased cornering loads.

Anonymous · July 14, 2004, 23:23

look like intermidiates to me...

juansolo · July 15, 2004, 07:10

Slicks are very different to any road tyre you can buy. Closest road legal tyre you can get to an intermediate slick is the Avon ACB10.

Very, very stiff sidewalls mean low tyre presures but a hard ride. Crossply construction means you will have to make geo changes to get the best out of them. They have very little tread depth and 'go off' after a few heat cycles. However when they're new and warmed up (like real slicks you have to get them up to temperature to make them work) they're very grippy yet also supremely adjustable. They're the tyre I'd run on the Westie if they weren't so damn expensive (£90 a corner vs £60 for A032Rs vs £20 for part worn slicks) and didn't go off so quickly.

Back to A032R's and their ilk.

Larger tread blocks means they move around less and means less overheating (only a track issue). The tends to have a seriously detramental effect on water shiftage though. Couple large tread blocks to a soft compound track biased tyre and you will get an enourmous increase in dry weather grip. Though this is likely to be at the expense of wet weather performance. Expensive and they wont last very long with normal road use.

Tem · July 15, 2004, 07:21

Hmmmm...you guys live in UK...if you want slicks, why don't you get the Colway Formula's? s8)

s8) It just might be the best road legal "slick" there is and it's not even that expensive. Needless to say, don't drive in rain with that.

Their Intermediate is almost as good on dry, but can be used on rain as well.

Now they might only last 5k miles or so, but you would be having a lot of fun during those miles s8)

s8) And like someone said, make sure your oil system can handle the cornering forces, the stock system can't s:? :? s:?

juansolo · July 15, 2004, 08:48

I still stand by the opinion that the best mod you can do to a stock 2 is to strap a set of Neovas on to it. For spirited driving there is nothing I've found that is more progressive, still offers good grip levels and doesn't melt when you take it on track.

Anonymous · July 22, 2004, 12:07

Quote from: "juansolo"I still stand by the opinion that the best mod you can do to a stock 2 is to strap a set of Neovas on to it. For spirited driving there is nothing I've found that is more progressive, still offers good grip levels and doesn't melt when you take it on track.

juansolo, how would you rate the Neovas compared to Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3's? I personally have found the F1's to be the best tyre by far for medium/heavy cars. Only the soft sidewall makes me slightly hesitant about putting them on the '2 which I believe requires a stiff sidewall to make the most of the stiff suspension.

The '2 is used in dry and wet and thru country lanes, 'B' raods and motorways on the daily drive.

juansolo · July 23, 2004, 08:11

Never used Goodyears so can't compare, sorry.

It depends what you want to do with the car and how you want it to behave when it comes to the novas. I'd really like to put them back on as switching back to the standard bridgestones (the car will be sold in the next few weeks) really screwed with the balance of the car that I really liked on the novas. With the right pressures the turn in is sublime, the car does absolutely what you tell it to. Slip recovery is possible from what you would normally consider unrecoverable angles as everything just works.

However, if on-road grip is your goal then these are not the tyres you want. Wet weather grip is entertaining also...