Call me crazy but could I fit a sub here.........

[trickyD]

This is crazy perhaps, but could I fit a small sub, say 6 or 8" inbetween or just behind the two seats? I.e above the tiny cubby hole just behind the handbrake, pointing upwards or angled up/front. It would kind of be by your shoulders..

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I was even thinking of a free-air sub with absolutely no enclosure!
I know it won't work very well because the reverse air will cancel out the beats, but it would be simple and dare I say it a little bit "hobo" in a charming way  s:) s:)

Something like this would NOT appear to be going to produce a lot of rear, "negative" sound waves? Although I don't think is suitable for free air use   s:? :? s:?  


Or this is free air and has a semi enclosed back...
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Or this is said to be suitable....
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I could hide the amp in the rear "boot" area, and wiring would be easy.
Obviously I'd need to make a bracket up to hold it in place and I've no idea where this would locate onto.

Thoughts
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[shnazzle]

Drawing please. Can't picture it

[trickyD]

Added to the original post, sorta......

[trickyD]

Maybe this will help....

[Rob988]

You could, but you'd struggle to fit in an enclosure that would generate any form of SPL.

[trickyD]

You could, but you'd struggle to fit in an enclosure that would generate any form of SPL.

That's the unique thing, no enclosure, totally free air...   s:shock: :shock: s:shock:

[Rob988]

Ummm, it wouldn't really make much bass that way, if any.  But atleast it would fit!

[trickyD]

Ummm, it wouldn't really make much bass that way, if any.  But at least it would fit!

In my head it does!!!   s:mrgreen: :mrgreen: s:mrgreen:    s:P s:P  

Maybe I'd be better off with a small under seat sub   s:) s:)

[Rob988]

Haha, tbf a lot of small box subs have terrible SPL anyway so I wouldn't worry too much!!  It would be more of a show piece than anything though.  Now if you were to reverse box the sub into the bins behind the seat, so the back of the sub extended outwards into the cabin, that'd work and give the look/position mentioned.  All you'd need is some MDF and you wouldn't even lose the storage space.

[trickyD]

Ooh nice idea!

[AndyM]

Interesting idea Tricky. I have to agree though, a free air 6" sub (if you can find one) will struggle to go much deeper than a decent comp driver.

Any reason you aren't considering underdash?

It fits the nice JBL 6" in an enclosure, doesn't take up any usable room, is hidden from view and by firing into the footwell it's more likely to retain a bit of SPL when the roof is down.

These cars are never going to be very good for sound but to me this seems like the ideal solution.

[trickyD]

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Any reason you aren't considering underdash?

It fits the nice JBL 6" in an enclosure, doesn't take up any usable room, is hidden from view and by firing into the footwell it's more likely to retain a bit of SPL when the roof is down.

These cars are never going to be very good for sound but to me this seems like the ideal solution.

I read the write ups and it sounded like a royal pain in the ass!
This seems so easy to do...

What about an 8" along with decent comps in the door?? :/
The links I added to the original post are all for "free air" 8" subs
DSL also make one for free air use...

[AndyM]

Really? I read the instructions and thought it sounded pretty straight forward. Surely for this one you are going to have to do some pretty major modifications to the centre console? Or have I misinterpreted the drawing?  s:) s:)

[Wabbitkilla]

What about fitting it into the console and porting the enclosure behind the seats?
Might give you some interesting results.

[trickyD]

Really? I read the instructions and thought it sounded pretty straight forward. Surely for this one you are going to have to do some pretty major modifications to the centre console? Or have I misinterpreted the drawing?  s:) s:)

Did you read people's experiences and later "corrections"? The basic how to makes it sound like a sinch, but read deeper and its a pain to even fit under there, bending brackets, taking off trim, all on your back in the footwell.

He'll no! That sub just sits on there!
Hobo style!

One bracket maybe....

[trickyD]

What about fitting it into the console and porting the enclosure behind the seats?
Might give you some interesting results.

I like this for a MK2 version, perhaps incorporating a new armrest (like the ones on spyderchat).

I suppose this could be a proof of concept?

[Rob988]

Remember unlike higher frequencies, bass is omnidirectional. So it doesn't matter how it's enclosed but I would enclose it some how, facing in or out.

[trickyD]

Remember unlike higher frequencies, bass is omnidirectional. So it doesn't matter how it's enclosed but I would enclose it some how, facing in or out.

You are right, a reversed polarity thin (or thin basket) sub facing in might fit the available space better. I could make a small conical enclosure perhaps?
Let me do another pic!!!

[trickyD]

This....

[StuC]

Are you planning on this sub being above the height of the centre console or chopping that part up?
Just thinking with that cone you have mentioned it potentially blocking the use of the bins. Not sure if you are fussed about that or not?

[Wabbitkilla]

What I was thinking as a sub the same width as the console, then cut into the tray moulded into the console and fit facing into it with ports cut in the site of the console behind the seats?

[Rob988]

Yea, the best thing about low frequency is you can mount it in almost any sensible direction as long as it has an enclosure.  As has been suggested, it could be set facing up or back.  The picture suggestion with a small enclosure would work well.  Could look pretty smart too if done correctly.  If you left it on a hooked bracket, you could still make use of your bin doors by just unhooking it when needed.  Good plan!

[mikews]

I honestly think you overestimate how much space you have there. I'm just in the process of trimming my centre and its all of 4 inches wide. Being above the console you'll be smacking your elbow on the magnet if its reverse mounted, plus its a very easy theft target. Plus, from experience with "Free Air" and "Infinite Baffle" subwoofers in cars, they are generally pants because people don't go to the effort of setting them up correctly.

It could be mounted into the bins a la



However the comments on its page are, although its the same sub used in the UD box, it isn't anywhere near as loud. And of course you lose most of your rear bins.

I've got an amp and sub in my car parts pile that I've been toying with the idea of putting into the '2. Initially I was going to do this on the passenger side



however the magnet on the sub I have is far too deep (even though its designed for a small enclosure), however if you're buying a small shallow sub, personally that's the route I'd go for.

Sorry for the ramblings.

Good luck with whatever you choose to do.

[trickyD]

Nah, no need to apologise!   s:D s:D  
Some great input and I like the final idea of the footwell sub.

I think you are right about the lack of room and the potential for spl from that "IB" arrangement, I just thought it would look cool and appeals to my lazy hobo nature...

[Rob988]

Yea the footwell enclosure looks great. Wouldn't want to be the one tasked woth making up the box though. Good luck with it all, sounds like you've formed a plan.