KYB shocks with toyota camber bolts?

[Topdownman]

I took my car to get the tracking checked last week and I went along armed with 2 T90105-14146 bolts and 2 T90105-14147 bolts with a view to reducing the rear negative camber. The car is on new KYBs and Tein lowering springs.

Unfortunately they found that the toyota bolts would not work with the nuts off my existing bolts (they were very loose on the thread) but more worryingly he also said that he thought that even with the correct size nuts he thought the bolts would be too short as he thought there would be barely enough thread showing to get the nut fully on.

i will try and get some nuts from toyota but am obviously a bit worried that they might be too short.

Are KYBs different in some may to the standard shocks? Are they slightly wider? Has anyone used these bolts on KYBs?

Any thoughts welcomed.

[Ardent]

Simon
No idea what is going on there, unless woodsport have tinkered around.
I have the KYB excel G shock, as you know. I went to Wheels in motion armed with the same 90105-14147 bolt as you ref. and they had no issues what so ever.
Nut off, bolt out, new bolt in, nut on. No issues at all.

Depending on what you read and where from. The word is, KYBs are stock.
To me, the issue is with the nut or the technician.
KYB excel G fit as standard. You have a Mr T bolt. As a process of ilimination, does not leave much
You might be able to cross refrence with JoeCool as he has recently had a full set(?) of nuts n bolts.

[Ardent]

Recent cross refrence here.
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[JoeCool]

I got some US Spec Camber bolts, not UK Toyota ones. No Idea, sorry! Mine are about 2cm longer than they need to be, and a very annoying 18mm nut/15mm bolt combo (everything else on the back end is 17mm/19mm).

[Topdownman]

Looks like the first step is to get some nuts (and washers I presume) from Mr T and see if they do fit.

Am I right in thinking these are celica bolts rather than mr2 ones?

[Topdownman]

Took a few pictures yesterday.
Existing bolts

Camber bolt

This isnt going to work using washers on either side as at the moment, it may just work without either washer.

[shnazzle]

I'm still not sure how this works. Does the bolt have a lobe? Or are you trusting it to hold the camber setting purely by the grip on the strut?

I wouldnt run it without washers. But that's me.

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[Topdownman]

No lobe that I can see. I assume that the thinner shafts of these 2 bolts (11mm or 12mm) allows you to position it within the mount then tighten to hold in place. Presumably you fit the thickest bolt that will give the desired adjustment. The technician who did my alignment last week got my rear right side from -2.07 to -1.51 by adjusting the standard bolts. Who says the rears are non-adjustable!

I dont like the idea of no washers either but I cant see any other way of this working and as everyone seems to recommend them all the time they are working for others somehow?

[markiii]

I wouldn't use them anyway, they will move.

look at something with an adjustable cam like the whiteline bolts

[shnazzle]

Exactly my thoughts. You're relying on clamping force alone to keep that camber setting. I'm. Sure it'd be fine if you checked it every now and then. Or, just spend 20 quid on camber bolts.
Adjustable arms are even easier to adjust but obviously much pricier.
The alignment guy I went to said the bolts are a pain in the ass to adjust, but it all works grand.

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[JoeCool]

You're relying on the camping force with a lobed bolt anyway. The lobe is only to position stuff correctly when loose. Check out the clamping force 120ft/lb of torque on that bolt spec provides- it's in the order of 6 tonnes!

However the loose nut sounds odd, I'd get hold of new bolts and nuts so you know what you've got. The kyb strut ends should be identical to the oem ones, and cause no issues.

[shnazzle]

Fair enough. Full steam ahead then  s:) s:)  

And, our friend jaworjawor has done a similar thing anyway and has been running it for ages well. Only difference is that he drilled out the holes on the strut instead of using thinner bolts

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[lamcote]

That's interesting JoeCool, I had wondered about that issue, seems like you have put my mind at rest. Thanks