Changing Shock Absorbers

Started by ColinC, July 27, 2017, 17:21

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ColinC

July 27, 2017, 17:21 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
A friend is helping me change the shock absorbers and springs, I have bought 4 KYB shocks and Tein Springs, as well as drop links boots and bump stops. To make the job a bit easier, I am going to ask a garage to put the new springs on to the new shocks, the garage has a machine that does it in jig time so it does not cost that much as its under an hours work, I am told, as well as potentially saving my good looks. Anyway what I want to ask is where do the boots go, I presume its on the shock before the spring goes on and the bump stop before the nut is fastened at the top so no no rush there I suspect. I would appreciate if someone can confirm my thinking, or put me right please. I have done a few searches but cant find any pictures that might answer the question.

Many Thanks
Colin

Carolyn

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July 27, 2017, 18:37 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Take all your bits to the garage.  They will know exactly what to do with them.  As the boots and bump stops go inside the springs.....
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ColinC

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July 27, 2017, 19:05 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Brilliant Caroline, thanks.

Colin

1979scotte

#3
July 27, 2017, 20:02 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Quote from: "ColinC"Brilliant Carolyn, thanks.

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minimike

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July 27, 2017, 20:18 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
The fronts are pretty straight forward with a set of spring compressors. I have just replaced the rubber bump stop and boot on my drivers side this afternoon. Not sure about the rears.

I guess it will be a lot easier if they are already made up though.
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Ardent

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July 27, 2017, 20:53 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Top mounts?

ColinC

#6
July 27, 2017, 20:55 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Fixed that for you.

Apologies Carolyn, and thanks 1979 scottie

Cheers Colin

minimike, I suspect you are correct, but this is beyond my comfort zone already, so its more of a harm reduction programme, and I mean to the car.

ColinC

#7
July 27, 2017, 20:57 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Quote from: "Ardent"Top mounts?


As there is no current problem and its just to freshen up the suspension I am hoping that they are ok, I might find out thats not the case but I dont think I will know till its all apart, so I am keeping my fingers crossed.

Colin

Ardent

#8
July 27, 2017, 22:08 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Sadly that is true.
Wasn't sure if they are separate or the garage will need them when making up the suspension leg.

ColinC

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July 29, 2017, 13:36 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
I am afraid I have one further question I hope that you can help me with. The advice is that you replace the central top nut when you change the shocks so I ordered 4, and the two pairs are different. I checked the rear ones as its easy access and they are the same part no. 90179-14015 and I cant see the front one as they are under the plastic cover so I thought I would ask before taking it off, and breaking more of the fixings. The front nuts dont have the washer part on the nut and the part number is 94182-11400.

Thank you
Colin

Carolyn

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July 29, 2017, 13:59 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
The cover has to come off anyway.  Then you can take a proper peek.
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PhilzMR2

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July 29, 2017, 19:22 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Quote from: "ColinC"I am afraid I have one further question I hope that you can help me with. The advice is that you replace the central top nut when you change the shocks so I ordered 4, and the two pairs are different. I checked the rear ones as its easy access and they are the same part no. 90179-14015 and I cant see the front one as they are under the plastic cover so I thought I would ask before taking it off, and breaking more of the fixings. The front nuts dont have the washer part on the nut and the part number is 94182-11400.

Thank you
Colin

My new KYB shocks came complete with new nuts. Have you checked inside the boxes?

Ardent

#12
July 29, 2017, 22:05 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
What phil said.

ColinC

#13
July 30, 2017, 20:53 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Quote from: "Ardent"What phil said.

Good point, I opened it but I will need to take a better look.

Many thanks
Colin

Joesson

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July 30, 2017, 22:04 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
The front nuts are certainly a nylon insert type locking nut and so would / should not be pre fitted to the new shocks.

PhilzMR2

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August 1, 2017, 11:03 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Quote from: "Joesson"The front nuts are certainly a nylon insert type locking nut and so would / should not be pre fitted to the new shocks.

True. The nut supplied with each of my new shocks was in a small plastic bag, inside the box.

ColinC

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August 1, 2017, 17:10 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Quote from: "PhilzMR2"
Quote from: "Joesson"The front nuts are certainly a nylon insert type locking nut and so would / should not be pre fitted to the new shocks.

True. The nut supplied with each of my new shocks was in a small plastic bag, inside the box.


I took another look and your right, it was in there hiding, so that will teach me "no more cursory looks" Now back to Toyota with 4 nuts.

Thanks
Colin

ColinC

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August 7, 2017, 18:40 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
The saga continues, I ordered all 4 KYB shocks on E -Bay after checking they were all in stock, the prices were a little different as well as not all suppliers had all the parts, anyway 3 shocks delivered some weeks ago and I have ordered the 4th one 4 times now only to be told after confirming stock each time that they dont have it in, but that was only after saying it would be delivered, and it not arriving. It seems that  a FL KYB shock is indeed a very rare beast. I have learnt a lesson here as I currently cant do the job after spending a lot of money on parts, which are in the spare room.The lesson being that I should have ordered all the parts from a single reputable supplier, or maybe I have just been unlucky. Does anyone know of a supplier that has a front left KYB shock absorber for a 05 plate in stock?

Cheers
Colin

PhilzMR2

#18
August 7, 2017, 22:14 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
I bought mine from apd_car_parts on eBay. Might be worth a look at them.

The Other Stu

#19
August 7, 2017, 23:51 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Online car parts in Germany don't have them either. Interesting......

delhusband

#20
August 7, 2017, 23:57 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Tried fensport? They're advertising kyb excelg shocks on 3-5 day delivery

ColinC

#21
August 9, 2017, 18:42 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Quote from: "PhilzMR2"I bought mine from apd_car_parts on eBay. Might be worth a look at them.

Thanks for the suggestion but they did not have any as I got 2 of the others from them.

Quote from: "delhusband"Tried fensport?
I had a look at this site a few weeks ago and I am sure they were not listed so may have come in to stock, though they are about 40% more expensive then the most expensive of the others, but may well be a solution, so thank you.

I have just reordered the shock as an e-bay lister contacted me to tell me that they are due back in stock next week, so fingers crossed it works out.

Colin

ColinC

#22
August 23, 2017, 19:25 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Well its all now here so I plan to do the job, or least try to on Saturday, and have been soaking all the nuts for the last few days, in preperation. When I clean the top mounts and hopefully am able to use them again, is multi purpose grease ok to use for the top mounts, to repack them, or is it something specialist? My apologies for newby questions, but as you may have gathered, my mechanical knowledge does not extend that far.

Thanks
Colin

mr9

#23
August 24, 2017, 15:50 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
I'm also looking at doing this job. Would love to hear if you notice a change.

My dampers are 100k old, and seem to crash over bumps. Though they do still damp out the oscillations so would be annoyed to spend hundreds and get no improvement...

What eBay seller did you buy your shocks from??

Ardent

#24
August 24, 2017, 17:25 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
I went from 100k shocks to fresh kybs and springs.
World of difference.
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