Rusting rear member

michaelb · September 17, 2018, 19:45

Hi all, my rear member has a hole rusted through it and the rear chassis is showing general signs of rust. Could I weld up the hole and treat the rest with rust proofing stuff? Also one of my bushes in the subframe is seized in, the one that adjusts the toe angle. Help appreciated!

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Ardent · September 17, 2018, 20:36

Bite the bullet buy a new sub frame

Buy - treat - fit - forget
plus a geo afterwards

If go for new sub frame you can afford to use more violence on the other bit.

michaelb · September 17, 2018, 20:38

Lol what's a geo? I see Dean Rozier has subframes, might take one off him

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michaelb · September 17, 2018, 20:39

Or how much would a brand new subframe be?

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Ardent · September 17, 2018, 20:53

I paid £223 in 2015

michaelb · September 17, 2018, 20:54

Where would I find one mate?

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Ardent · September 17, 2018, 20:55

Geo

geometery set up (4 wheel alignment)

michaelb · September 17, 2018, 20:56

Ah yes!

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Ardent · September 17, 2018, 20:56

your local Toyoata dealer

Part number 51206 - 17040 (face lift)

I believe a face lift sub frame will fit a pre face lift car, But, a PFL will not fit an FL car.

michaelb · September 17, 2018, 20:56

Oh ok, that could be expensive then!

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michaelb · September 17, 2018, 20:57

350 quid in Mr2 Ben!

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Ardent · September 17, 2018, 21:03

Still worth asking Mr T.

You may bump in to a friendly parts person that may give you some sort of club discount.

1979scotte · September 17, 2018, 21:07

Quote from: michaelb on September 17, 2018, 20:57
350 quid in Mr2 Ben!

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300 ish is what Toyota charge.
If the cam bolts are rusted in and you have a hole it's probably best to bin the whole thing.
Dean may have some good ones.
Ask @Carolyn if she would mind taking a look for you.
Either way it will need filling with wax oil or dinitrol and something on the outside too like hammerite.
Then a full 4 wheel alignment.

Ardent · September 17, 2018, 21:20

I went for Dynax S50 for the inside and good ole hammerite smooth on the outside.

And then polished it and then waxed it. Iknow.. Iknow, I'm one sick detailing puppy.

michaelb · September 17, 2018, 21:24

Dean does have some, but he's off on his holidays now and not back until 6 October. I'm in the middle of getting my 2zz installed and this would be the best time to replace the subframe. I may just have to bite the bullet and by a new one. The bolts and arms are seized on the current one.

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Call the midlife! · September 17, 2018, 22:33

Quote from: michaelb on September 17, 2018, 21:24
Dean does have some, but he's off on his holidays now and not back until 6 October. I'm in the middle of getting my 2zz installed and this would be the best time to replace the subframe. I may just have to bite the bullet and by a new one. The bolts and arms are seized on the current one.

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Genuine, already discounted and apologised for mistake removed to avoid any further confusion.

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michaelb · September 17, 2018, 22:35

I've no idea, the mechanic is doing it all. If it does involve cutting the subframe, what's the solution?

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Call the midlife! · September 17, 2018, 22:45

Quote from: michaelb on September 17, 2018, 22:35
I've no idea, the mechanic is doing it all. If it does involve cutting the subframe, what's the solution?

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Forget I said that, sorry, confusing other people's cars and engines..

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Ardent · September 17, 2018, 23:00

MB
more a V6 transplant requirement.
Sleep easy tonight.

Call the midlife! · September 17, 2018, 23:02

Yeah, what Jase said..^^ [emoji23]

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1979scotte · September 18, 2018, 06:03

Quote from: Call the midlife! on September 17, 2018, 22:33
Quote from: michaelb on September 17, 2018, 21:24
Dean does have some, but he's off on his holidays now and not back until 6 October. I'm in the middle of getting my 2zz installed and this would be the best time to replace the subframe. I may just have to bite the bullet and by a new one. The bolts and arms are seized on the current one.

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Does the 2zz install not involve cutting a chunk out of the subframe for the gearbox anyway?

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FFS NO!
That's only in a V6 swap where you are changing the gearbox for something a little bigger.

michaelb · September 18, 2018, 06:22

Cheers for clarifying! I was more than a little concerned

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ilovejapcrap · September 18, 2018, 06:31

I purchased a second hand one on eBay checked and had powder coated no issues.

My old one has a hole in usual spot. But when you look inside it via hole test is fine. I intend to weld up the hole and keep as a spare. As these sub frames are a welded part this is fine.

It will probs end up being stronger in the rotted area than when created a steels not that thick

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michaelb · September 18, 2018, 06:40

The other problem is one of the bushes is seized solid to the subframe. It's totally immovable. I'm happy to get a second hand subframe as I know Dean Rozier has some good ones but he's away on holiday now for 3 weeks and I'm getting the conversion done as we speak. I need a subframe now.

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frogger · September 18, 2018, 07:58

I had one hole near the exhaust. Welded it up nicely, and cleaned everything up and repainted it with rustoleum. Probably cost a tenner.