Water to air - need some help with the design

Started by Nvy, February 8, 2019, 09:44

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Nvy

February 8, 2019, 09:44
Hello guys,
I do have some questions on the design of my water to air system.

1. I have bought a new upgraded rad. Can i use the old one for the w2a considering that i can make them both fit?
2. What pump to use? Id like to be able to drive the car in the winter sometimes so ideally i want to use antifreeze as a coolant.
3. How many litters should i have in the system? I intent to use some reservoir but no idea how big id need.
4. How to connect the pump into the system? Some ppl connects these to the ac but i know that its not optimal.
5. What kind of hoses to use?
6. General mounting points or/and pics would also help.

For now i have old rad that was on the car and looking for mercedes s65/s600 intercooler i think its going to be enough for around 300 horses and im going with a small turbo - 2554r.

Any input is appreciated!

1979scotte

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February 8, 2019, 16:00
Gt2554 won't make 300bhp.
Many people have used the fiat cinquecento rad and eBay charge cooler with good results.
The more fluid in the system the better.
Get a proper bosch charge cooler pump brushless is better but more costly
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1979scotte

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February 8, 2019, 22:45
Quote from: Essex2Visuvesi on February  8, 2019, 21:10
Quote from: 1979scotte on February  8, 2019, 16:00

Get a proper bosch charge cooler pump brushless is better but more costly

Jaguar XJR-Supercharged Water pumps work well, and can be had for little money
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AJV8-4-2-SUPERCHARGER-COOLANT-PUMP-Jaguar-XKR-XJR-XFR-S-Type-R-XF-SV8/192568616355?hash=item2cd5fbe5a3:g:ebAAAOSwgeBaX3at:rk:7:pf:0

Brand new bosch pumps are around 120.
Think they are oem on jag and Ford among others.
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Nvy

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February 9, 2019, 09:23
Ill get Bosch pump and the coolant im thinking for 5-6 litters. Any idra how to power the pump?

Turns out that the w2a cooler from merc is quite expensive and will work up to 250-260 hp so im thinking of getting the 300 $$ 600 hp kit from frozen boost or just the cooler and the exchanger. The merc cooler is around 250 $ and i cant justify the price.

1979scotte

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February 9, 2019, 13:21
Quote from: Nvy on February  9, 2019, 09:23
Ill get Bosch pump and the coolant im thinking for 5-6 litters. Any idra how to power the pump?

Turns out that the w2a cooler from merc is quite expensive and will work up to 250-260 hp so im thinking of getting the 300 $$ 600 hp kit from frozen boost or just the cooler and the exchanger. The merc cooler is around 250 $ and i cant justify the price.

Excuse me but you need to rethink your turbo choice it won't make 300.

I think my charge cooler is like this one

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Large-Universal-Air-Water-Intercooler-Chargecooler-l3-5-Inlet-Track-Drag-Car/132887068837?hash=item1ef0afc0a5:g:RGIAAOSwstxVECkF

Which I am hoping will support 300+ although I am using it with a rotrex which runs cool in comparison to a turbo.
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Nvy

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February 9, 2019, 14:31
I have never said my turbo will make 300 hp but that the intercooler will support it. I just want to build everything with a bit more left in it so i can build the engine and add bigger turbo later down the line.

Ill have a look on your cooler but if google is used it shows some coolers from aliexpress that looks quite the same and are dirt cheap.

1979scotte

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February 9, 2019, 14:41
Quote from: Nvy on February  9, 2019, 14:31
I have never said my turbo will make 300 hp but that the intercooler will support it. I just want to build everything with a bit more left in it so i can build the engine and add bigger turbo later down the line.

Ill have a look on your cooler but if google is used it shows some coolers from aliexpress that looks quite the same and are dirt cheap.

Appologiese that's not how I read it.

It's all Chinese stuff if you can get it from Ali for less than go for it.
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Nvy

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February 9, 2019, 14:59
Quote from: 1979scotte on February  9, 2019, 14:41
Quote from: Nvy on February  9, 2019, 14:31
I have never said my turbo will make 300 hp but that the intercooler will support it. I just want to build everything with a bit more left in it so i can build the engine and add bigger turbo later down the line.

Ill have a look on your cooler but if google is used it shows some coolers from aliexpress that looks quite the same and are dirt cheap.

Appologiese that's not how I read it.

It's all Chinese stuff if you can get it from Ali for less than go for it.

English is not my native so i cant express my thoughts very good. Ali has coolers for 80 dollars.
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