At either end of the cylinder block there are what I assume to be captive ball bearings in channels.
As my block has apart and clean and shiny for a few weeks now is there anything I ought to do to the balls to make sure they're not stuck in place and will do whatever it is they're supposed to do when they're supposed to do it?
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They're supposed to be stuck in place. They close off the ends of oil-ways. :)
Quote from: Carolyn on February 19, 2019, 08:56
They're supposed to be stuck in place. They close off the ends of oil-ways. :)
Hahahahaha! Thanks for that, I wasn't sure if they were supposed to have a degree or movement for pressure release or something along those lines.
Now all I need to do is find the 2, brand new sets of feeler gauges I bought weeks ago and I can start checking valve lash tonight.[emoji2]
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I'm currently in possession of the club bucket bank.
Let me know what you need?
Will do, thanks, I'm probably hoping in vain that as it's all new cams and valvetrain that I can get away with what I've got. Fingers crossed.
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Desperate to do my valves now that my exhaust is finally sorted. Everything sounds sweet except for clackityclackityclackity
This is me getting ready to measure mine. That's the really tedious part of the job. The more different sizes, ready to go, the easier it is.
They went a little noisy after I did the valve seal swap.
I've suddenly got the Jackson 5 going round in my head.. "Can you feel it??"
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Quote from: Carolyn on February 19, 2019, 09:16
I'm currently in possession of the club bucket bank.
Let me know what you need?
I now know exactly what I need, nothing short of a miracle.
My feelers only go up to.65mm and the exhaust gap is more than that, so I don't know where to go from there at the moment.
Even dropping the original camshaft in the gap is way bigger than the upper limit so I don't know how big the buckets go up to and if it's even possible to close the gap.
They're the right Supertech valves and springs etc for the engine assuming they've put the right ones in the boxes but it's a head scratcher.
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Are these new valves in an old head then? If anything I'd expect the clearances to be tight.
Quote from: jonbill on February 19, 2019, 20:38
Are these new valves in an old head then? If anything I'd expect the clearances to be tight.
Yup, original head, new uprated valvetrain to go with the cams and I was the same as you expecting it to be more or less good as new so it was a bit of a shock. I'm just looking for standard valvetrain specs to check spring sizes etc.
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I don't think the spring has much to do with it; I think the lash pad pushes directly on the valve stem, so there's only seat height, valve length, lash pad thickness and base circle of the cam involved. The valves maybe 0.5mm too short.
Carolyn will be along to correct me shortly [emoji4]
Quote from: jonbill on February 19, 2019, 21:07
I don't think the spring has much to do with it; I think the lash pad pushes directly on the valve stem, so there's only seat height, valve length, lash pad thickness and base circle of the cam involved. The valves maybe 0.5mm too short.
Carolyn will be along to correct me shortly [emoji4]
Without taking them out to check, which I can't do until Thursday now, everything checks out as far as details on the manufacturers website go. I've binned the packaging the valves came in so can't check any references but I'll take a valve out on Thursday night and have a measure.
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I should just put the added detail that they're Crower Stage 2 cams so are more "lumpy" but wasn't expecting that much of a gap difference and I'm only laying the shafts in the seats with the lobe facing inwards, it's not an assembled, timed set up.
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You went for Stg2!?
Nice... Interested how you get on. Particularly for MOT.
Was wondering why you got new springs and valves.
Quote from: shnazzle on February 19, 2019, 22:48
You went for Stg2!?
Nice... Interested how you get on. Particularly for MOT.
Was wondering why you got new springs and valves.
Go big or go home! Although the way things are looking I'll not be leaving the garage let alone having to go home.[emoji23]
Fingers crossed a decent tune on the Apexi and the 200 cell cat should keep me within limits, especially with my friendly tester...
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Quote from: shnazzle on February 19, 2019, 22:48
You went for Stg2!?
Nice... Interested how you get on. Particularly for MOT.
Was wondering why you got new springs and valves.
Go big or go home! Although the way things are looking I'll not be leaving the garage let alone having to go home.[emoji23]
Fingers crossed a decent tune on the Apexi and the 200 cell cat should keep me within limits, especially with my friendly tester...
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And if you remember it was YOU who told me I needed new springs and valves. Sort of.
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Quote from: Call the midlife! on February 19, 2019, 22:52
Quote from: shnazzle on February 19, 2019, 22:48
You went for Stg2!?
Nice... Interested how you get on. Particularly for MOT.
Was wondering why you got new springs and valves.
Go big or go home! Although the way things are looking I'll not be leaving the garage let alone having to go home.[emoji23]
Fingers crossed a decent tune on the Apexi and the 200 cell cat should keep me within limits, especially with my friendly tester...
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And if you remember it was YOU who told me I needed new springs and valves. Sort of.
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Ah man I post so much on this forum I have no idea anymore who I say what to hahaha
I think I post here more than I say in real life
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Quote from: Call the midlife! on February 19, 2019, 22:52
Quote from: shnazzle on February 19, 2019, 22:48
You went for Stg2!?
Nice... Interested how you get on. Particularly for MOT.
Was wondering why you got new springs and valves.
Go big or go home! Although the way things are looking I'll not be leaving the garage let alone having to go home.[emoji23]
Fingers crossed a decent tune on the Apexi and the 200 cell cat should keep me within limits, especially with my friendly tester...
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And if you remember it was YOU who told me I needed new springs and valves. Sort of.
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Ah man I post so much on this forum I have no idea anymore who I say what to hahaha
I think I post here more than I say in real life
I've got to admit I'll be glad when it's finished for 3 reasons.
It's finished.
I can drive it.
I can stop finding myself drifting off at work and trying to decide what to do when I get home and wondering if the throttle body will ever turn up.
Oh and 4, I can stop haemorrhaging money out of my savings and start saving again. (Although "lending" H the money for a 3 series didn't help with that).
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It ain't cheap rebuilding a block is it? :)
I can't remember the final price list I got up to, but it was enough for me to bin it and add it to the "in your dreams" bucket
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It ain't cheap rebuilding a block is it? :)
I can't remember the final price list I got up to, but it was enough for me to bin it and add it to the "in your dreams" bucket
It's gone way over budget, some of it on things that can't be helped like the cat and some on things that couldn't be ignored like the kerb rash on the wheels that's now been replaced with shiny powder coat.
There have been an amount of use once and put away tools to be bought also together with a seemingly endless amount of tins of paint and preserver.
And I'm nowhere near where I'd wanted to be in terms of other work while it's in bits, the power steering pump bracket for instance will now be left until next winter.
And I'm heading towards failing my part 3 concrete technology course in May so I'm sure my employer will have something to say about that.
But it'll soon be time for our first meet and all these moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain...
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It's only money spend it.
Follow my example.
The world is going to end on March 29th anyway.
Which 3 series?
Quote from: 1979scotte on February 20, 2019, 07:07
It's only money spend it.
Follow my example.
The world is going to end on March 29th anyway.
Which 3 series?
It's an 05 320D, poverty spec but in good condition for its age and cheap enough. Although he's only had it a week and already it looks nothing like it did when he bought it. Picked up some M sport bumpers for pennies off some junkie in Liverpool last week [emoji23]
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It does sound as though the valves are the wrong length.
What's the story on the inlets?
I'd measure the cams too. It's one or the other!
Have you tied dropping the old cam in and seeing what the gap is? That will narrow down whether it's the cam or the valves.
If the cam lobe is close, I'd put the old valves back in....
(This bit is a bit tongue-in-cheek):
There's always putting the whole original valve train back in....
Quote from: Carolyn on February 20, 2019, 08:57
It does sound as though the valves are the wrong length.
What's the story on the inlets?
I'd measure the cams too. It's one or the other!
Have you tied dropping the old cam in and seeing what the gap is? That will narrow down whether it's the cam or the valves.
If the cam lobe is close, I'd put the old valves back in....
(This bit is a bit tongue-in-cheek):
There's always putting the whole original valve train back in....
I dropped the old exhaust cam in last night and it definitely reduced the gap to a probable manageable size, bearing in mind I think that particular bucket is a 42 and the biggest I have is around a 48 from memory.
The other aspect is the Crower recommendation lash gap on exhaust is 0.008 which is even tighter than standard.
I hear what you're saying re the valve train, first job is to quantify everything on Thursday evening and see what the valves actually measure, while I have one out I'll try an old one just to check but I lapped the new ones in lightly so there'll be a very small area for error there.
All fun and games.
Thanks all.[emoji1303]
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Then the cam is not ground correctly.
8 thou is only .2 mm. Interesting!
Quote from: Carolyn on February 20, 2019, 09:36
Then the cam is not ground correctly.
8 thou is only .2 mm. Interesting!
That's the way I'm thinking, assuming the valves are as ordered they're actually 0.05mm longer than standard so certainly shouldn't cause the issue, they were a lot harder to compress but are stronger, dual springs so wasn't unexpected.
Fingers crossed it's the wrong grind on the cams as that should be a straightforward fix, although it'll put things back even further.
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Do you mean the springs are longer or the valves?
You can double-up feeler gauges and measure the actual gap. I bet it's 1 mm out....
CNC grinding....
GIGO.
Quote from: Carolyn on February 20, 2019, 10:09
Do you mean the springs are longer or the valves?
You can double-up feeler gauges and measure the actual gap. I bet it's 1 mm out....
CNC grinding....
GIGO.
Off the manufacturer's website the valves should be longer than standard.
The irony is I avoided Cat cams due to issues of unreliable grinds on some reviews I read, Crower had nothing but positive feedback.
I just gave up last night and locked the door on it all.
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Quote from: Call the midlife! on February 20, 2019, 07:13
Quote from: 1979scotte on February 20, 2019, 07:07
It's only money spend it.
Follow my example.
The world is going to end on March 29th anyway.
Which 3 series?
It's an 05 320D, poverty spec but in good condition for its age and cheap enough. Although he's only had it a week and already it looks nothing like it did when he bought it. Picked up some M sport bumpers for pennies off some junkie in Liverpool last week [emoji23]
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Was hoping it would be an E30.
Ah... so it's also possible the valves are too short.
Yep. Got to measure one.
I don't blame you for shutting the door and walking away. Often the best method!!
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Quote from: Call the midlife! on February 20, 2019, 07:13
Quote from: 1979scotte on February 20, 2019, 07:07
It's only money spend it.
Follow my example.
The world is going to end on March 29th anyway.
Which 3 series?
It's an 05 320D, poverty spec but in good condition for its age and cheap enough. Although he's only had it a week and already it looks nothing like it did when he bought it. Picked up some M sport bumpers for pennies off some junkie in Liverpool last week [emoji23]
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Was hoping it would be an E30.
Hahahahaha! One day, when the insurance is viable I'm sure it will be, although I don't imagine it resembles it's insurance listing even now but that's his circus I've warned him often enough.
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Quote from: Carolyn on February 20, 2019, 10:35
Ah... so it's also possible the valves are too short.
Yep. Got to measure one.
I don't blame you for shutting the door and walking away. Often the best method!!
If I have time tonight I'll pull a valve and measure the cam lobes but I'm supposed to out dancing and I need to make myself less Shrek-like for that![emoji23]
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Quote from: Call the midlife! on February 20, 2019, 10:42
Quote from: Carolyn on February 20, 2019, 10:35
Ah... so it's also possible the valves are too short.
Yep. Got to measure one.
I don't blame you for shutting the door and walking away. Often the best method!!
If I have time tonight I'll pull a valve and measure the cam lobes but I'm supposed to out dancing and I need to make myself less Shrek-like for that![emoji23]
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Leave it for a couple of days... then you can come at it 'fresh'.
I find that really helps me when something is problematic.
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Quote from: Carolyn on February 20, 2019, 10:35
Ah... so it's also possible the valves are too short.
Yep. Got to measure one.
I don't blame you for shutting the door and walking away. Often the best method!!
If I have time tonight I'll pull a valve and measure the cam lobes but I'm supposed to out dancing and I need to make myself less Shrek-like for that![emoji23]
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Leave it for a couple of days... then you can come at it 'fresh'.
I find that really helps me when something is problematic.
Agreed, I've got a pair of brand new Toyota handbrake cables to fit so that should take my mind off the possible dodgy valves/cams.
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Quote from: Call the midlife! on February 20, 2019, 07:13
Quote from: 1979scotte on February 20, 2019, 07:07
It's only money spend it.
Follow my example.
The world is going to end on March 29th anyway.
Which 3 series?
It's an 05 320D, poverty spec but in good condition for its age and cheap enough. Although he's only had it a week and already it looks nothing like it did when he bought it. Picked up some M sport bumpers for pennies off some junkie in Liverpool last week [emoji23]
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Was hoping it would be an E30.
Hahahahaha! One day, when the insurance is viable I'm sure it will be, although I don't imagine it resembles it's insurance listing even now but that's his circus I've warned him often enough.
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Had a relation that wouldn't listen to similar the circus lions almost got him.
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Quote from: Call the midlife! on February 20, 2019, 10:40
Quote from: 1979scotte on February 20, 2019, 10:32
Quote from: Call the midlife! on February 20, 2019, 07:13
Quote from: 1979scotte on February 20, 2019, 07:07
It's only money spend it.
Follow my example.
The world is going to end on March 29th anyway.
Which 3 series?
It's an 05 320D, poverty spec but in good condition for its age and cheap enough. Although he's only had it a week and already it looks nothing like it did when he bought it. Picked up some M sport bumpers for pennies off some junkie in Liverpool last week [emoji23]
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Was hoping it would be an E30.
Hahahahaha! One day, when the insurance is viable I'm sure it will be, although I don't imagine it resembles it's insurance listing even now but that's his circus I've warned him often enough.
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Had a relation that wouldn't listen to similar the circus lions almost got him.
He's no different to most his age but I keep telling him not to draw the wrong attention with stupid stuff like number plate on the dashboard, it just asks for the rest to be looked at, or the insurance to walk away from any claims.
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Who'd like to read the measurement off for me please?
Just to see if it's the same as I got rather than me looking for the "right" reading.
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Looks like 86.5 to me.
Quote from: Carolyn on February 20, 2019, 18:39
Looks like 86.5 to me.
I think I'm going to have to measure it again with a different set of verniers as I read something else [emoji23]
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I take that back.
I just looked at the way your vernier lines up at the top.
88.5!!
Quote from: Carolyn on February 20, 2019, 18:58
I take that back.
I just looked at the way your vernier lines up at the top.
88.5!!
That's nearer what I'm reading, I had around 8 and three quarters so I'm happy that it's not the valves.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190220/86dcf128f22966e010d195dee1f693ab.jpg)
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I just checked the standard Toyota dimension for the exhaust valves. (From the manual)
Std height:88.69
Minimum height: 88.39.
Looks like you're missing the extra .5??
What strange verniers. You read it on the 0 mark of the lower measure?
Quote from: shnazzle on February 20, 2019, 19:04
What strange verniers. You read it on the 0 mark of the lower measure?
I've hardly ever used them to be honest, I inherited them by default and have never found them particularly easy to read, hence the question.
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The 0 aligns between 88 and 89.
So it's 88 and a bit.
Then look to the right on the scale for lines to coincide, for the bit.
In this case alignment is at 5 or 6 difficult with photo.
So the measurement is 88.5 or perhaps 88.6.
Difficult to judge via www.
Did you zero them before starting?
Quote from: Carolyn on February 20, 2019, 19:04
I jsut checked the standard toyota dimension for the exhaust valves.
Std height:88.69
Minimum height: 88.39.
Looks like you're missing the extra .5??
If the verniers are to be believed it's quite possible but it could also be down to my poor measuring skills.
But potentially missing .05 from the Supertech size aside the cams should work with standard length valves and that measurement is near enough to standard for me to expect them to work together. If you know what I mean?
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Quote from: Joesson on February 20, 2019, 19:13
The 0 aligns between 88 and 89.
So it's 88 and a bit.
Then look to the right on the scale for lines to coincide, for the bit.
In this case alignment is at 5 or 6 difficult with photo.
So the measurement is 88.5 or perhaps 88.6.
Difficult to judge via www.
Agree on the poor angle of the photo, it was more to sanity check how I was reading the same way as yourself. The main scale halfway between 88-89 so in my eyes 88.5 then lined up square on the 5 on the second scale so 88.55.
But the valve had dropped out twice already while trying to take the photo so it's possible it had slipped again when I put it down the third time.
Either way it's near enough for me.
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half a millimeter is lot!
can't see buckets taking that up.
I'd ask Crower how long the exhaust valves need to be according to them.
Then you'll know.
Measuring the cam is tricky without a lathe/v-blocks and a dial gauge. even then you've got to know what you're doing.
PM me for data sheet....
Quote from: Carolyn on February 20, 2019, 19:31
half a millimeter is lot!
can't see buckets taking that up.
I'd ask Crower how long the exhaust valves need to be according to them.
Then you'll know.
Measuring the cam is tricky without a lathe/v-blocks and a dial gauge. even then you've got to know what you're doing.
PM me for data sheet....
I know what you're saying re the half millimetre, I've just tried the cam again with one of the old valves and the gap is the same so I'm still leaning towards the cams being wrong.
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So the old valve is the same as the new one?
Where's the extra .5 mm?
The new valve is bog standard length!!
It's too short.
PM me for the data sheet. I need your email.
Quote from: Carolyn on February 20, 2019, 19:51
So the old valve is the same as the new one?
Where's the extra .5 mm?
The new valve is bog standard length!!
It's too short.
PM me for the data sheet. I need your email.
Well when I said the same I was generalising a bit as I haven't checked either gap exactly yet but it's definitely far too big regardless.
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Isnt modifying such fun!
Quote from: 1979scotte on February 20, 2019, 20:37
Isnt modifying such fun!
I was thinking the same.
Why do we do this again?
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Isnt modifying such fun!
The best I've never had!
I wouldn't mind if I'd gone big time custom like yourself but they're all supposed to be "standard fit" uprated parts.
I've been pondering whether the valves need lapping further into the head as they seem quite proud but when I tried with the old valve it was pretty much the same and side by side the seating rings aren't that different to cause the extra gap.
Of course it'll probably turn out to be something I've done wrong or not doing right, at which point I'll just laugh hysterically and turn on the gas.
And sit in the corner with a pointy hat on at Ding Day, parked by the bins in a blacked out 320D.
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Quote from: 1979scotte on February 20, 2019, 20:37
Isnt modifying such fun!
I was thinking the same.
Why do we do this again?
Did you ask yourself the same when you decided to have kids?
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Quote from: shnazzle on February 20, 2019, 20:38
Quote from: 1979scotte on February 20, 2019, 20:37
Isnt modifying such fun!
I was thinking the same.
Why do we do this again?
Did you ask yourself the same when you decided to have kids?
Hahahahaha! Funnily enough that's not the reason I've only got the one [emoji23]
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Quote from: 1979scotte on February 20, 2019, 20:37
Isnt modifying such fun!
I was thinking the same.
Why do we do this again?
Did you ask yourself the same when you decided to have kids?
Hahahahaha! Funnily enough that's not the reason I've only got the one [emoji23]
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The Mrs gave up drink didn't she? ;)
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Quote from: Call the midlife! on February 20, 2019, 22:07
Quote from: 1979scotte on February 20, 2019, 21:58
Quote from: shnazzle on February 20, 2019, 20:38
Quote from: 1979scotte on February 20, 2019, 20:37
Isnt modifying such fun!
I was thinking the same.
Why do we do this again?
Did you ask yourself the same when you decided to have kids?
Hahahahaha! Funnily enough that's not the reason I've only got the one [emoji23]
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The Mrs gave up drink didn't she? ;)
Nah, the Mrs gave up me, full stop![emoji23][emoji23]
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Alright assembled masses of experienced engineers and garage tinkerers what's the first rule of not cutting corners club?
The winner gets to put the hat on me at Ding Day.
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Alright assembled masses of experienced engineers and garage tinkerers what's the first rule of not cutting corners club?
The winner gets to put the hat on me at Ding Day.
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Dont
Cut
Corners?
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Quote from: Call the midlife! on February 21, 2019, 20:44
Alright assembled masses of experienced engineers and garage tinkerers what's the first rule of not cutting corners club?
The winner gets to put the hat on me at Ding Day.
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.
Dont
Cut
Corners?
Start making the hat. Or the pants of shame.
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Take the packaging off first?
Ok, I know I'm among friends here, or at least people who know I'm basically an idiot.
Remember I clearly said I was just laying the camshafts in the journals for now to measure the lash but they looked nice and flush?
Well they weren't, far from it, so regardless of how many people tell you it's ok to check lash gaps like that or how many YouTube videos you watch it's not. You just end up having to send out a series of very apologetic emails and messages to people who's time could've been spent much more productively.
I've just taken another valve out for that pair to let that lobe sit in the void and they're tight as a very tight thing! Possibly even too tight in places but that's a job for Saturday working them all out.
I didn't know whether to laugh or cry.
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Laugh. Always laugh. You've learned something and you've made progress.
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Laugh. Always laugh. You've learned something and you've made progress.
I swear though Patrick, I challenge anyone to do the same thing and not think they were sat flush.
Finally got confirmation the throttle body will be sent out this weekend/Monday too so just waiting on the cat pipe and some ARP head bolts and the fun really begins.
I still need to check all the gaps and probably swap some buckets around but at least that's fairly straightforward, Crower ask for tighter lash gaps than MrT and I measured one around 0.15-0.18 which is about right by Crower so fingers crossed.
Still don't see me doing the Cotswolds meet on the 3rd but probably won't be SORNing at the end of the month now as I imagined this morning.
It'll need an alignment and then off to the tuners to set up the Apexi and see what it's making before sliding gracefully into a hedge bottom somewhere [emoji23]
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I know this doesn't help but I assumed you had the cam bolted in when you were measuring up. So if it wasn't flush, it wouldn't really have tightened up. Never considered that, for that reason
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I know this doesn't help but I assumed you had the cam bolted in when you were measuring up. So if it wasn't flush, it wouldn't really have tightened up. Never considered that, for that reason
Nah, I think the bit where I said I didn't have them clamped in got lost and forgotten early on.
Ironically if I had clamped them in from the start none of this would've happened.
So don't... cut... corners...
By the way I sat outside on Sunday and wrapped the Zero, I repeat my previous statement, good luck doing it in situ..[emoji23]
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Haha! I'm starting to think I got lucky last time I did mine in situ!
On a side note;. Do you use the Toyota guides to any engine work? Anything I've done is always based on those, supplemented by tips/shortcuts from elsewhere.
Just because the manual says to check lash before removing cams :)
Quote from: shnazzle on February 21, 2019, 21:53
Haha! I'm starting to think I got lucky last time I did mine in situ!
On a side note;. Do you use the Toyota guides to any engine work? Anything I've done is always based on those, supplemented by tips/shortcuts from elsewhere.
Just because the manual says to check lash before removing cams :)
Oh I'm referencing them all the time but that's only really applicable if you're putting the same lot back in whereas I'm essentially starting from scratch, or at least I expected to be so didn't bother spending the time on it.
I've lapped the new valves in and with the wear on the old cams and buckets I wasn't expecting them to match the old positions.
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Ah OK. Makes sense.
Well if it makes you feel better, good chance I would have done the same.
"just going to place the cam to see if the clearances are OK".
I thibk if we all banned the phrase "I'm just...." we'd all be better off
Quote from: shnazzle on February 21, 2019, 22:09
Ah OK. Makes sense.
Well if it makes you feel better, good chance I would have done the same.
"just going to place the cam to see if the clearances are OK".
I thibk if we all banned the phrase "I'm just...." we'd all be better off
There's also far too many YouTube mechanics making instructional videos that really shouldn't be followed.
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Quote from: Call the midlife! on February 21, 2019, 22:11
Quote from: shnazzle on February 21, 2019, 22:09
Ah OK. Makes sense.
Well if it makes you feel better, good chance I would have done the same.
"just going to place the cam to see if the clearances are OK".
I thibk if we all banned the phrase "I'm just...." we'd all be better off
There's also far too many YouTube mechanics making instructional videos that really shouldn't be followed.
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Very true!
And then oddly someone like Lee keeps saying he's no expert and he's just trying things and doesn't know what he's doing. Haha
Quote from: shnazzle on February 21, 2019, 22:12
Quote from: Call the midlife! on February 21, 2019, 22:11
Quote from: shnazzle on February 21, 2019, 22:09
Ah OK. Makes sense.
Well if it makes you feel better, good chance I would have done the same.
"just going to place the cam to see if the clearances are OK".
I thibk if we all banned the phrase "I'm just...." we'd all be better off
There's also far too many YouTube mechanics making instructional videos that really shouldn't be followed.
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Very true!
And then oddly someone like Lee keeps saying he's no expert and he's just trying things and doesn't know what he's doing. Haha
While desperately trying to get sponsored by Costa coffee [emoji23]
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Quote from: Call the midlife! on February 21, 2019, 22:14
Quote from: shnazzle on February 21, 2019, 22:12
Quote from: Call the midlife! on February 21, 2019, 22:11
Quote from: shnazzle on February 21, 2019, 22:09
Ah OK. Makes sense.
Well if it makes you feel better, good chance I would have done the same.
"just going to place the cam to see if the clearances are OK".
I thibk if we all banned the phrase "I'm just...." we'd all be better off
There's also far too many YouTube mechanics making instructional videos that really shouldn't be followed.
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Very true!
And then oddly someone like Lee keeps saying he's no expert and he's just trying things and doesn't know what he's doing. Haha
While desperately trying to get sponsored by Costa coffee [emoji23]
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I liked the "I'm not sponsored by Hardrace I just like Chavvy stickers".
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