MeisterR settings

[Nvy]

I have my MeisterRs fitted but the car is rly bouncy to the point that im scared to drive it.. Can you give me any base settings so i can drive to the alignment shop? I cant experiment because i should not drive too much with alignment out of spec - i polybushed the whole suspension together with the coils so the alignment is all over the place.

[Call the midlife!]

Bouncing is usually not enough damping, I'm 12 front-18 rear which is fairly firm.


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[Call the midlife!]

Just checking too, you know to adjust the setting it's all the way off then bring it back up to however many clicks you want?


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[Nvy]

Just checking too, you know to adjust the setting it's all the way off then bring it back up to however many clicks you want?


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I gotta go to full stiff then do the clicks backwards. At least it used to be like this with my civic.

[Call the midlife!]

Double check the instructions on the meisters, I'm 99% it's all off to let them relax and then back up.


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[Nvy]

Double check the instructions on the meisters, I'm 99% it's all off to let them relax and then back up.


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So 12 front and 22 rear from full stiff doesnt work for me. The car jumps so much that my foot is getting off the throttle. The ride is god awful, do you have any spring preload? I didnt have this on my civic and i have driven it with rly stiff settings say 10 and 12 from full stiff and it was an awesome drive, never experienced jumping like i do now. I guess i cant compare the 2 cars but i think that front springs are too soft/stiff for the 2. @meisterr any input please?

[Topdownman]

What does the instruction book say about preload?

I cant remember what they say but it sounds like you have no preload when there should be some leading to the uncontrolled movement?

If its that bad, I can see why you wouldnt want to drive it.

[Call the midlife!]

Preload is factory set, unless you've changed it accidentally setting the heights?
Are you saying 12 clicks back from full and 22 back on the rear? It could be too much of a difference front to rear that's not letting it settle? I know mine took a fair bit of tweaking to get something like, particularly on dual carriageways and older motorway sections with a lot of undulations.


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[Nvy]

Preload is factory set, unless you've changed it accidentally setting the heights?
Are you saying 12 clicks back from full and 22 back on the rear? It could be too much of a difference front to rear that's not letting it settle? I know mine took a fair bit of tweaking to get something like, particularly on dual carriageways and older motorway sections with a lot of undulations.


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Hey,
So first idk what u mean by full if full soft or full stiff, i have read on MeisterRs that we need to turn them to full stiff and then soften them up coz of the valve system inside. My impressions from my 2km drive is that the springs are just not stiff enough for some stiff settings for the dampers. So id try front 20 from hard in the front and rear 25 or something like this something like this:

|             |                   | front
|       |                         | rear
Soft                             Stiff

MeisterR initial settings were like 20+ from stiff in the rear and 6-7 from stiff in front.

So what im experiencing now is that the spring compress way too much in the initial dip and then the car bounces back rly fast so it literally jumps. I guess I can address this with some spring preload or stiffer springs. Im planning to use rears in the front and to order 10kg springs for the rear but wanted to try it softer. As it seems ill have to make it rly rly soft in order to be driveable

[shnazzle]

Not sciencestiffic or anything but I had the same when I had my BCs put on years ago. On full soft it was stupid bouncy. Even considered selling and going stock.
Then I firmed it up to about 10F/12R and it was much better, but obviously harsher.
Got used to it. Loved it.
But soon after, when I put it back down to full soft, it wasn't bouncy anymore. I actually run full soft most of the time now.
Tommyzoom was running his full soft last time I had a ride in his.

So maybe there's some settling in to be done?

[Topdownman]

I am very surprised that you think the springs are too soft  as too hard springs are usually the main criticism of coilovers.

I have meisterRs  and run them on something like 6 and 8 from soft.

[Nvy]

I am very surprised that you think the springs are too soft  as too hard springs are usually the main criticism of coilovers.

I have meisterRs  and run them on something like 6 and 8 from soft.

Maybe the dampers need some time to settle. Ill try some soft settings when im driving the car to the alignment shop. Wont set any preload for now.

[Call the midlife!]

I had it the wrong way round in my head as regards adjustment, you're right in that it's full on then back off.
What I meant was are you going 22 back from full which would give you a setting of 10 from soft? Or 10 back from full to give you 22 from soft?


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[Nvy]

I had it the wrong way round in my head as regards adjustment, you're right in that it's full on then back off.
What I meant was are you going 22 back from full which would give you a setting of 10 from soft? Or 10 back from full to give you 22 from soft?


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22 back from full stiff - 10 from soft the rear end is behaving better but the front is insane. Soooo ill try 5 from full soft or something and it should be good. IMO for some stiff settings we need stiffer springs

[Call the midlife!]

Stiffer springs will make it worse, I think what you need to do is start again at a base level you know and just keep trying.
If you're only on 10 from soft at the rear you're probably not damping enough. I don't think I could get any lower than 12 without it "bouncing", if I remember rightly the rear springs are stiffer than the front anyway?


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[Nvy]

Stiffer springs will make it worse, I think what you need to do is start again at a base level you know and just keep trying.
If you're only on 10 from soft at the rear you're probably not damping enough. I don't think I could get any lower than 12 without it "bouncing", if I remember rightly the rear springs are stiffer than the front anyway?


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Yeah 5f/7r. Its not bouncing in a way when your shocks are gone but more in a violent way. So i guess my damping is set to stiffer that the springs can take.

[1979scotte]

I always run mine quite soft.
If I'm honest they work better with the extra weight of the V6 and the PFL 15" wheels.

[Call the midlife!]

Stiffer springs will make it worse, I think what you need to do is start again at a base level you know and just keep trying.
If you're only on 10 from soft at the rear you're probably not damping enough. I don't think I could get any lower than 12 without it "bouncing", if I remember rightly the rear springs are stiffer than the front anyway?


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Yeah 5f/7r. Its not bouncing in a way when your shocks are gone but more in a violent way. So i guess my damping is set to stiffer that the springs can take.

Just define "bouncing" for us? Are you talking about rebound on the springs or the wheels actually leaving the road kind of bouncing?
If it's rebound then you've not got enough damping I would've said?


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[Topdownman]

I still think it sounds like the preload is wrong on the fronts.

If it is wrong it makes a huge difference. I would check this before the alignment is done.

[Nvy]

I still think it sounds like the preload is wrong on the fronts.

If it is wrong it makes a huge difference. I would check this before the alignment is done.

The guys at the shop will do it coz they will do corner balancing and stuff. I dont have any tools at home that i can use and they will have the car tomorrow. Its a wet dream to have a lift at home so i can work on the car in the garage. I did take off the plastics yday and this is the only thing i did alone

[Nvy]

I still think it sounds like the preload is wrong on the fronts.

If it is wrong it makes a huge difference. I would check this before the alignment is done.

So its not the car bouncing like you would have then your shocks are gone and just the springs are working(you push the front and it moves up and down w/o stopping) but its like u get into any imperfection of the road and it feels like the front wheels are getting up in the air. U get the dip - spring compress and then it bounces back violently. Idk if i explained it right.

[Call the midlife!]

I still think it sounds like the preload is wrong on the fronts.

If it is wrong it makes a huge difference. I would check this before the alignment is done.

The guys at the shop will do it coz they will do corner balancing and stuff. I dont have any tools at home that i can use and they will have the car tomorrow. Its a wet dream to have a lift at home so i can work on the car in the garage. I did take off the plastics yday and this is the only thing i did alone

All the tools you need for preload and height should've come with them in the box, basically just some C spanners (that slip like a barsteward). As long as you didn't spin the top collar when you were fitting them then they should be set. The top collar should just be taking up the slack in the spring, not actually starting to compress it at all, so you can still turn it by hand.


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[Call the midlife!]

I still think it sounds like the preload is wrong on the fronts.

If it is wrong it makes a huge difference. I would check this before the alignment is done.

So its not the car bouncing like you would have then your shocks are gone and just the springs are working(you push the front and it moves up and down w/o stopping) but its like u get into any imperfection of the road and it feels like the front wheels are getting up in the air. U get the dip - spring compress and then it bounces back violently. Idk if i explained it right.

Sounds like not enough damping to be honest, mine felt like it would never stop bouncing when they were set too soft.


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[james_ly]

Ah you say you polybushed it? Maybe that won't help, also what tyres do you have?

I tried my Meisters on full soft, 1/4, 1/2 and 3/4 hard. To be honest didn't feel a huge difference so went for 1/2 way settings.

[Nvy]

I have ad08r and full soft works for me. If i want to run some rly stiff settings 10+ ill need stiffer springs for sure or else it jumps way too much.