Electric Window switch

[Anonymous]

The Window switch on the passener side is a manual button. If I got another switch the same a the drives side. i.e. changed it to a semi auto. Will it work???

[Slacey]

No, it's not that simple. If you search over on Spyderchat I think there were some instructions to convert it. IIRC it was far too complicated for me to bother with!

[aaronjb]

Instructions on Spydermagazine:

Auto Down Passenger Window Part 1
Part 2

[Anonymous]

Nope. I don't think I can be bothered then. but thanks for the reply guys and girls

[heathstimpson]

That is not a simple mod to do; just not worth the amount of agro in my eyes  s:shock: :shock: s:shock:

[Anonymous]

i fancy making a small project to overcome this - using a programmable interface controller and a couple of microswitches, relays etc.

if i were to be succesful, would anybody be interested in it as a group buy?

[Tem]

i fancy making a small project to overcome this - using a programmable interface controller and a couple of microswitches, relays etc.

I thought about that too...then I started to think that there has to be a ready cheap module for this. For some reason even the generic aftermarket auto-modules are very costy. But you can get window control modules meant for car alarms for £10 or so and it controls both windows.

I used the stock auto-down to drive both windows down, but have an external button for driving both up  s:? :? s:?  I should get a switch that has auto down+up to make it perfect, as I understand some other Toyota model has one that should fit.
(it CAN be any switch, that's just what I'd prefer)

[Anonymous]

I used the stock auto-down to drive both windows down, but have an external button for driving both up

Sorry if i have misinterpreted what you have said - do you mean that you use your drivers side window control to control both windows?

And then if you want to control each window independantly, you have a switch to break the connection so that you revert to normal operation?

richie

[Tem]

I used the stock auto-down to drive both windows down, but have an external button for driving both up

Sorry if i have misinterpreted what you have said - do you mean that you use your drivers side window control to control both windows?

I meant the four "normal" switches are as they were. So both manual up and downs work like they used to.

I just used the drivers side auto-down to drive both windows down. Works for me, cause I never really want to lower just the drivers window and if I do, I can still do it manually without the auto  s8) s8)
(like going to drive in on a rainy day, when I probably wouldn't lower it all the way anyway)

And then if you want to control each window independantly, you have a switch to break the connection so that you revert to normal operation?

I just have to use the "manual" up and down, if I need to control just the other window.

[Anonymous]

ahh, understand what you mean now, cheers!
ive got a feeling this may be an easier option, although ive already started the source code for the PIC lol.

[Tem]

ive already started the source code for the PIC lol.

Don't stop! I just meant someone else might like this approach to it  s8) s8)

Once you get the pic working, you have endless choices. How about retaining power to the windows for a minute after you turn the car off? Or driving them automatically up when you turn the car off?

And there's no need to stop there. How about slowing the wipers down when the car stops, so they won't scrape a dry glass when you sit in the lights. Or an automated heater control to achieve a given temperature? If the car has more than one driver, you can make a memory for the mirror settings. Get creative!  s:lol: :lol: s:lol:

[Anonymous]

ive already started the source code for the PIC lol.

Don't stop! I just meant someone else might like this approach to it  s8) s8)

Once you get the pic working, you have endless choices. How about retaining power to the windows for a minute after you turn the car off? Or driving them automatically up when you turn the car off?

And there's no need to stop there. How about slowing the wipers down when the car stops, so they won't scrape a dry glass when you sit in the lights. Or an automated heater control to achieve a given temperature? If the car has more than one driver, you can make a memory for the mirror settings. Get creative!  s:lol: :lol: s:lol:

Its funny you should mention that because for the past few days i've been trying to think of other features i could add to it. Asides the window power staying on for a minute, the only other idea i had was to make an automatic crossover facility for changing between the hardtop and soft top - ie so you dont have to swap the wires about everytime just push a button to select which rear heater comes on. again, something which could be more easily achieved using a DPDT switch.

if anybody can think of any other wee annoying electronics niggles with the 2, id be happy to consider a solution to them?

How about slowing the wipers down when the car stops, so they won't scrape a dry glass when you sit in the lights.

I live in Scotland, the Rain doesn't stop lol!


Do you work in electronics Tem? I get the impression from some of your posts that you're quite knowledgable in that field.

Cheers,
Richie.

[Tem]

How about slowing the wipers down when the car stops, so they won't scrape a dry glass when you sit in the lights.

I live in Scotland, the Rain doesn't stop lol!

Ah, but I meant a light rain, which keeps the windshield wet while you drive at speed, but not when you have to stop the car for whatever reason  s8) s8)  I realize it might not bother everyone, but it does bother me  s:lol: :lol: s:lol:

Do you work in electronics Tem?

I mainly do embedded software, but that does involve electronics and PC/PDA-software as well.

[crankshaft]

Can someone take a closeup photo of the Passenger Side Switch Connector, both the part on the wiring harness and the connector on the switch itself.

I may very well be able to get similar connectors here (Singapore) and like Tem already have the firmware done and proven on a breadboard.

I already have a couple of other addons, one which tilts the driver's and passenger's mirrors down when you put the car in reverse so you can see your rear wheels & the kerb etc.

The main problem & material cost with these low volume projects is always the connectors, the housing and the PCBs !

PeterC

[Tem]

I already have a couple of other addons, one which tilts the driver's and passenger's mirrors down when you put the car in reverse so you can see your rear wheels & the kerb etc.

That's a good idea, thanks!  s8) s8)

[crankshaft]

Hi Tem;

I designed the driver/passenger reverse mirror tilt a couple of years ago, posted it on my website & have been using it on my Mazda 6 ever since.

It sounds really simple but when you try and test it you will realize it's not as simple as you first thought !!

Good luck - remember that due to manufacturing tolerances, mechanical drives are not 100% repeatable, and that the secret is in the code  s;) s;)

What other modules have you developed on the PIC - ?? I am interested to know - should this be the subject of a new thread

PeterC

[Tem]

It sounds really simple but when you try and test it you will realize it's not as simple as you first thought !!

Good luck - remember that due to manufacturing tolerances, mechanical drives are not 100% repeatable, and that the secret is in the code  s;) s;)

Yeah, I know  s8) s8)  Actually I'd probably try a simple approach first as the mirrors are quite slow anyway. I imagine a correctly timed "up" movement should be precise enough to bring it where it was. Downwards you could go 1s against the limit to make sure it's down there.
(of course I'm only guessing here  s8) s8) )

What other modules have you developed on the PIC - ?

Whome? I don't really do modules, I just use a good old copy&paste from old code where usable  s:lol: :lol: s:lol:

Thanks to some NDA's I can't really say that much, but one of the most interesting current projects involve a light (leds, ELs, bulbs) controller board, which is controlled through Bluetooth from PDA and of course some good old switch inputs. And yes, it's for a car  s8) s8)